What's the first thought you have?
(and if you say this has never happened to you, pretend it did! then answer)
Currently reading: Losing Our Virtue By David F. Wells
tags: Biblical Christianity



So back to my original reason for writing about this today. Many people have wondered how John MacArthur could partner with charismatics, especially given his very well known position on this subject. Well, that question has been answered here by Nathan Busenitz of Faith & Practice.
At this year's Shepherd's Conference, Nathan gave a seminar on this very topic, and his notes from that seminar are now online here, as well.
You may or may not agree with his position, or mine, or anyone elses. Nevertheless, for those with questions, at least this is a start to getting to some answers.
As for me, I keep listening to the answers, and trying to understand.
Currently reading: Losing Our Virtue By David F. Wells
tags: Biblical Christianity

I just finished making this. I used to make birthday cakes this way for every birthday, but I sort of got lazy in the last couple of years and started decorating with fruit toppings & whipped cream. It's easier, and probably much more healthy, but the roses sure are fun to make. My handwriting is getting kinda rusty too. I should write longhand more often, eh?




More or less, that was my week. I'd be a very bad blogger however, to omit any mention of Tim being down in KY covering the T4TG conference (and doing a great job, as usual), and that he also unveiled a brand spanking new Discerning Reader this week. I was impressed that he bought that domain name, it actually made me lol for real. Tim's a busy guy, and I guess being Tim "The World's Most Famous Christian Blogger®" requires being so busy. Please keep Tim & wife Aileen in your prayers, their baby is due any time.



Last night something strange happened here to change my whole worldview. There was a humming noise over the roof. After experiencing a tingling sensation I felt my body lifted to a hovering light. There I encountered Aaron & his gray gang . They tried to implant me with a potato chip.Obviously, online communications have a dark side. Especially if you're easily persuaded. So just a warning to folks, don't be like dear Ninise.
They force fed me a revised & illustrated WCF and held my eyes open with toothpicks & forced me to read blogs. All the while the smallest gray guy chanted "For your pleasure silly woman".
I repent in sackcloth any comments I've ever made about anyone named Brian M. and Brian B. and will be sending off for the cult notebook from a well known apologist.
And for those who have nothing better to do than read my blog , post my url & comment in obscure corners, I have now decided to string my own rosary, and dedicate a bead for each of you.
Relevantly yours,
Ninise Schtick





And then, add this link to your favorites for the next time blogspot bites the dust. At least having this in your favorites will give you an idea of what in the world of blogging, is going on. (Caveat on this link, there is some off-color language there within some of the posts & replies)

Does God never change his mind? To be continued . . .
“You have not brought into the equation that God expects us to interceed for those he is angry at, and through our intercession we can cause God to change his mind.”And that, is exactly where this is going. This should be interesting. To say the least.



Call me a skeptic, but... Motley Crue was one of the first bands I quit listening to after I was converted to Christ.



- Proverbs 10:1 The proverbs of Solomon. A wise son maketh a glad father: but a foolish son is the heaviness of his mother.
- Proverbs 15:20 A wise son maketh a glad father: but a foolish man despiseth his mother.
- Proverbs 19:26 He that wasteth his father, and chaseth away his mother, is a son that causeth shame, and bringeth reproach.
- Proverbs 20:20 Whoso curseth his father or his mother, his lamp shall be put out in obscure darkness.
- Proverbs 28:24 Whoso robbeth his father or his mother, and saith, It is no transgression; the same is the companion of a destroyer.
- Proverbs 29:15 The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame.
- Proverbs 30:11 There is a generation that curseth their father, and doth not bless their mother.




"The Christian answer is: I can never pay this back, but luckily that Christ fellow has already paid my debt."

"I am henceforth to be known as ThirstyDavid when I comment on Blogger blogs. A while back, my wife informed me that a Google search for my name produced quite a number of hits. I didn't care much for that, but I figured if you're going to tell someone they're an idiot on an internet forum, you should at least be man enough to use your real name" ThirstyDavid

Yep, that was 20 instead of 10. I'm a rebel, we all knew that. :o)
I almost never tag anyone because folks are picky about memes. So I'll tag people that either never read my blog or would never in a snazillion years do a meme on their blog:
Phil
Tim
Paul
Michael
James
Vincent

"One must seriously ask the question: if Wright has a view of Christianity that pencils in the bodily resurrection of Jesus as an optional add-on, and embraces Marcus Borg as a "passionate" lover of Jesus... can there possibly be any doctrine that isn't optional?"

1Peter 3:
12 For the eyes of the Lord are over the righteous, and his ears are open unto their prayers: but the face of the Lord is against them that do evil.
13 And who is he that will harm you, if ye be followers of that which is good?
14 But and if ye suffer for righteousness’ sake, happy are ye: and be not afraid of their terror, neither be troubled;
15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
16 ¶ Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ.
17 For it is better, if the will of God be so, that ye suffer for well doing, than for evil doing.
Matthew 5:11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. 12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.














Did you happen to see that picture of me from last night? Well, that brilliant idea was my friend Darlene's. I know she doesn't really like having attention to herself, but I do want to tell my readers that today is her birthday!! So everyone has to leave a comment and wish her a wonderful birthday today.

This afternoon I layed down to have a bit of a nap, and when I woke up I felt a strange sensation in my ear. I reached up to find out what it was, only to discover I had a ladybug IN my ear. Yes, I flipped out, but that is besides the point.


(In regards to singing a song during worship) "To be honest, I heard little of the rest of the song. I was just overwhelmed by that one word: bold. I was moved almost to tears. No, let's be honest. I was moved to tears by that simple word. I stopped singing and just thanked and praised God for the boldness He gives. I stopped and thanked Jesus for the boldness He won for me through His sacrifice. It was a blessed moment."
Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need. (Hebrews 4:16)
1) freedom in speaking, unreservedness in speech
1a) openly, frankly, i.e without concealment
1b) without ambiguity or circumlocution
1c) without the use of figures and comparisons
2) free and fearless confidence, cheerful courage, boldness, assurance
3) the deportment by which one becomes conspicuous or secures publicity
"Throughout the evening, boldness was absent. The faith of the emergents, the postmodern faith, is a faith that is devoid of boldness before God. It is timid, angry, tentative, questioning. It is not a faith of assurance and boldness. It emphasizes the unknowability of God more than what God has revealed to us about Himself. The faith McLaren commends is a faith that always questions, always doubts. It seems that the only faith McLaren hates is the faith of a person who knows what he believes and is convicted by Scripture and by plain reason that what God has revealed is truth--true truth. "
4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.
5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:
6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.
7 ¶ Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.
8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;
9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.
10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:
12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.
14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,
16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
19 ¶ Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,
20 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;
21 And having an high priest over the house of God;
22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.
23 Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;)

"If your goal is to preach to the choir, you've done very well. I have learned absolutely nothing about the dangers of the ECM whatsoever."



"Does any person who ought to be condemned to hell escape because God is somehow not concerned or involved enough about sending them to hell that they escape his wrath? For example, is it possible that, in the final account, Judas will be judged by God worthy of hell but will escape God's wrath and spend eternity in heaven with the saints?"
"In a word:NO".Steve Camp apparently saw my astounding wisdom in such a deep answer, and felt compelled to use my same answer.



When I was little and my mom would take us kids to the county fair every year, there were certain rides on the midway I just loved & waited in line to ride. Certain ones I hated and would never go on, and then there were the ones I really never gave much thought to.



So here's a funny little rabbit trail that made me laugh. Just for kicks I looked at my site meter last night and saw that someone landed on this blog after doing a search for images with my name, at google. They didn't use my correct name, but ended up landing here anyway. So I went to google images and using my full name, did a search myself. I only vaugely recalled Frank posting this so I had to click over there to remind myself. It was good for a laugh to see that at google, and it was good for a laugh to re-read what he posted about himself alongside that picture. Go read it, you'll laugh too.
Have a great Friday - it's pizza/movie night in Rolfeland, and we're all excited to be watching The Chronicles of Narnia tonight. We don't do movie theaters, so this is our first viewing of it. Yay!

"You'll need to plan for both meaningful AND fun activities to do for 30 hours if you want to attract participants. Our sample schedule will give you several good ideas on what other groups have done in the past." (source)
Excitement is contagious, so do everything you can to create a buzz and let people know about your 30 Hour Famine event and why they should join your group. Here are some ideas on how to spread the word around your school or church:And this from the Incentives page:
• Put up the posters and message clings provided in your kit around your school or church
• Drop flyers into every student locker
• Organize an assembly to let everyone know what the 30 Hour Famine is all about.
• Invite a World Vision Famine Rep to give a motivational presentation
• Set up a sign-up table in high-traffic areas—make sure you have lots of information about your event and how you plan to make it a fun and meaningful 30 hours
• Wear the tattoos to get others curious
• Challenge other schools or churches in your area and convince students in your school or the youths at your church to join in a friendly competition (source)
We have some great incentives for you and your group if each person raises at least $90. Make sure you submit your group's donations and forms by June 20, 2006, or while supplies last.
• Raise $90 and you've fed a child for three months. You'll receive a handcrafted bracelet from one of our World Vision projects in Nicaragua.
• Raise $180 and you've fed a child for six months. You'll receive the bracelet and a baseball cap.
• Raise $360 and you've fed a child for one year! You'll receive the bracelet, the baseball cap, and a hooded sweatshirt.
• If your group is one of the top 10 fundraisers in 2006, as a leader, you'll receive an Apple iPod Shuffle.




"I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."
Matthew 7: 24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: 25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. 26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: 27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.


Excuse me... recognize anyone's name here???


Many years ago I began adminning and co-hosting different Christian chat rooms and discussion forums. I immediately noticed that among those who disagree on doctrine, something unusual would happen. I found it unusual because it was something I’d never seen face to face, in person – only on the internet.
For some odd reason that I’m sure someone could explain better than me, the idea that “it’s just a computer” or the anonymous aspect of the whole thing, seemed to feed the idea that it was perfectly okay to conduct one’s self like a complete buffoon, and fire off personal attacks against people that disagreed with you. And this was among professing believers! It was quite a disappointing shock to watch believers treat each other this way.
In April of 2001 I got sick of the whole mess and decided with the help of a friend, to start my own forum, and my own chat room, where that garbage would not be allowed. Disagreements would be allowed, but angry, hateful attacks would NEVER be allowed. We wanted a place where folks could come and ask questions and discuss doctrine where they would not be called names, made fun of, or made to feel unwelcome.
For the next four years, it worked and worked quite well. I cannot begin to tell you how blessed I was by the friendships created in that 4 years. People that came to Christ, people that came to a fuller understanding of the doctrines of grace, people who got married, people who passed away and went home to Jesus, babies born, kids that grew up and left home… and on and on it goes. We became a family, and like families do we looked out for each other, we sometimes fussed at one another, but the goal and the standard was always Sola Scriptura and at the end of the day what mattered most was “did we glorify the Lord today?”.
Last year about this time, things began to change and within a few months many of the people involved in the chat & forum began to be led of the Lord into other places. Other ministries, other projects, etc. The forum archive still exists, filled with almost 8,000 posts spanning a 4 ½ year time frame. By today’s standards, that’s a pretty insignificant amount, but we were a small, close-knit community. Many of us even traveled across the states & Canada to visit each other & worship together in each other’s churches.
The name of the chat room has changed, but we still open it from time to time and every time we do, it’s a huge blessing and the standard still remains SOLA SCRIPTURA, and glorifying God in what we do & say there.
The reason I thought about all this today and wanted to write about it, was because of the admin/chatter guidelines we had in place. I, along with all the other admins were dogmatic about enforcing these guidelines. It might sound odd to have to have a list of rules for Christians to follow that basically could be summed up by saying “act like a Christian”, but the nature of the Internet proved to me that a list like that had to be put into play so people could easily understand what was expected.
Part of what was in that document was a section on our conduct in chats & forums. This section applied to both admins and guests, and it was critically important to adhere to. This is part of the reason the room remained open for as long as it did. Our standard was high and our chatters appreciated that. Although it did quickly earn me the reputation as “the mean admin”. I didn’t care. I still don’t. Some things never change, eh? ;o)
What I did and do care about is what the Scriptures have to say about the way we’re to conduct ourselves. Both toward unbelievers and those among the household of faith. Below is the section of our guidelines for the chat room and forum, only slightly edited. I originally wrote this in 2003 and I would like to edit it now after a few years of learning a bit more:
Below are the Scriptures we had in mind, when crafting the guidelines for our community, and chat room. We believe there is a Biblical way to govern the way we treat other people, and speak to other people. While the lost are not our brethren, there can be no excuse for treating them with anything less than compassion and care, as we proclaim the truth of the Scripture. Anyone using the example of Jesus calling people vipers, etc., as a free pass for insults & name calling, should also remember Christ had perfect discernment into men's hearts, while we do not. Christ had no errors in His doctrine in any form, while even the most learned men, do.
There have been more than a few times when those of passionate convictions have tried to use those convictions to beat another chatter or forum guest over the head with doctrine. This is wrong, every time. Stating your convictions and stating why you believe what you believe, is fine. Using Scripture to back up your position is preferred. Using Scripture to point out why you disagree with a teaching is also preferred. Using the “I’m right and you’re wrong you moron” approach is unacceptable, 100% of the time.
If we are to dare proclaim the unfathomable grace of God, we also must strive diligently to
be examples of that grace, that by that same grace, the lost may see Hishandiwork in us, and the brethren who err in doctrine, may receive what we have to say, and come to sound teaching.
How can we dare proclaim His grace and not live it, at the same time?
Please consider these passages as you admin the chat, moderate the forum, and conduct yourselves in either format:
Col. 3:12 Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering; 13 Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye. 14 And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness. 15 And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful. 16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord. 17 And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.1Peter 3:8 Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous: 9 Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing. 10 For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile: 11 Let him eschew evil, and do good; let him seek peace, and ensue it. 12 For the eyes of the Lord are over the righteous, and his ears are open unto their prayers: but the face of the Lord is against them that do evil. 13 And who is he that will harm you, if ye be followers of that which is good? 14 But and if ye suffer for righteousness’ sake, happy are ye: and be not afraid of their terror, neither be troubled; 15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear.
Ephesians 4:29 Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers. 30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption. 31 Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice: 32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ’s sake hath forgiven you.
2Peter5 And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge; 6 And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness; 7 And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity. 8 For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.
Jude 1:3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
(end of guidline excerpt)
It’s been a long time since I read that, and I’m glad I re-read it today. This reminder was a really good one for me, and it certainly applies to blogging & blog commenting, just as much as it did and does, to chatting & forum participation. For Christians, it applies 100% of the time, no matter where we are or who we’re conversing with.
In my own critique of the ECM and other liberal, ungodly teachings finding their way into local churches, it also applies. I strive to present the facts and back my position with what the Scriptures say. There are times however that I fall short of my own “guidelines”. I know that, and I’m diligent about doing it less often.
I hope this post was a beneficial reminder for you too. We have a high and holy standard as it pertains to our conduct. I’m convicted to try harder to meet it.


Like many other people, I find history fascinating. What I find even more interesting is how sometimes some of the most world-changing, life-changing events have happened on the same day in history. Clearly this is the providential hand of God working here - even in ways we cannot begin to fully comprehend. Even in the tragedies. Anyone who’s not been living under a rock for the last 20 years knows that the list of events in history listed here, are all on or about April 20th.
For this cause, it didn’t escape me that another very significant event happened on April 20th. This one went under the radar of the mainstream media, and the world at large, but it’s been significant in the lives of many people all the same.
This was the date the Alliance of Confessing Evangelicals released The Cambridge Declaration. If you’ve never read it, I would encourage you to do so. This document was written and signed 10 years ago, and it’s just as timely (if not more) today as it was then. It addresses the very same issues right now in evangelicism that many of us bloggers write about on blogs such as PyroManiacs, fide-o, Running Well, Slice of Laodicea, Emergent No, Challies, Apprising Ministries, Pastor Ron Gleason, and others.
The reason I mention this document is because of what it says about Sola Scriptura. The fact is, there are a lot of Christians out there that have no idea what Sola Scriptura means, and/or have never even heard of it. They may even actually hold to it themselves, without even knowing it has a “label” such as this. It’s not at all uncommon to meet fellow believers that already hold to this, without ever having heard about “Sola Scriptura”. To me, this is a great testimony to the power of God in a believers life, giving them such firm assurance of the authority of His word.
It’s the grave misunderstanding of what this means, that I would like to address.
A commenter at ENo, responding to a post showing why contemplative spiritual practices are unbiblical, responds in disagreement, insinuating that those of us that hold to Sola Scriptura are actually being hypocritical:
“How is this off point? It's a post about contemplative prayer and practices being unbibilical. Okay, then Christmas isn't Biblical either. My point is at some point Church Tradition is important to you. Sola Scriptura is logically inconsistent with the arguments you make.” (source)
He goes on then to argue that if us Sola Scriptura adherents celebrate Christmas, attend church on a Sunday, or have a regular course of events in church such as hymns-sermon-offering-hymns, then we’re really more about holding to church tradition, than Sola Scriptura.
He believes Sola Scriptura is logically inconsistent with the arguments we make, for only one reason. He, like many others, doesn’t understand what it actually means.
Here’s a quote from the Cambridge Declaration:
“Thesis One: Sola ScripturaWe reaffirm the inerrant Scripture to be the sole source of written divine revelation,which alone can bind the conscience. The Bible alone teaches all that is necessary for our salvation from sin and is the standard by which all Christian behavior must be measured.We deny that any creed, council or individual may bind a Christian's conscience, that the Holy Spirit speaks independently of or contrary to what is set forth in the Bible, or that personal spiritual experience can ever be a vehicle of revelation.”
Let’s “unpack” that, shall we? (Regular readers will forgive me I’m sure, for my flippant use of trendy-lingo).
Celebrating Christmas as a family tradition has absolutely nothing to do with Sola Scriptura. Nor does celebrating a family member’s birthday, or Thanksgiving, the 4th of July or Valentine’s Day. It’s a holiday, period. It’s not a church mandate that we partake of it, nor is it a “church tradition” that trumps what the Scriptures teach about the birth of Christ. Not in the evangelical church, anyway.
Sola Scriptura means simply this; we consider the written word of God to be the final word in all matters of our faith, and practice.
In faith: The who, when, what, how, where and why, of what we believe about the Lord, salvation and the life to come after this one. This covers an extremely extensive amount of information as it pertains to Biblical doctrine.
In practice: this includes among many other things that more brilliant minds than mine have ever addressed – prayer, worship, study, gathering ourselves with other believers, local church government, discipline, missions work and more.
In both of these main categories and every sub-category that they cover, the Scriptures are not only our final authority, but as Paul said in 2Timothy 3:15-16: All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. They are complete in all we need to be thoroughly equipped.
There are many Christians that have amassed for themselves great personal libraries. They have spent countless blessed hours reading the writings of other believers, that were equally blessed and wrote all about it. In our own home, we have so many bookshelves filled with just these kinds of books, that I cannot even begin to estimate how many we have. Yet, if tomorrow morning we woke up and every book we had was gone, except for one Bible, we would have all we need to not only learn about our Lord (who He is, why the atonement was required, what justification is, etc.) but read His word to us as it pertains to how we are to worship Him. That one book is all the information we need, because it is the infallible, inspired word of God to His people. The final authority.
With the rise of acceptance of “contemplative spirituality” it is more important than ever to understand what Sola Scriptura really means, as it pertains to how we are to worship the Lord according to His word.
The pastors at fide-o have addressed this, and I hope they will continue with this very important topic. I think we’d all be better off if we approached this topic with a humble heart and prepared to be instructed according to the Scriptures, rather than being mentally busy preparing our rebuttal or defense. I look forward to what they have to say on Monday.
Currently reading:
Losing Our Virtue By David F. Wells
Total Truth By Nancy Pearcey
tags: Biblical Christianity






